Krzysztof Skubiszewski
Hans-Dietrich Genscher
After Minister Skubiszewski opened another plenary session on 10 November 1989, the
floor was taken by Minister Genscher, who informed the meeting of Chancellor
Helmut Kohl
Next, Minister Genscher declared that in light of the events in the
– Situation following the opening of the border with the West by the
– What had happened in the
– No one should exploit the thrust and drama of developments in the
In these circumstances, Chancellor Kohl’s visit to Poland was taking on a new dimension, becoming a symbol of the Polish-German aspirations for freedom.
In his reply, Minister Skubiszewski thanked Minister Genscher for familiarizing the
Polish side with the West German position on the Mikhail Gorbachev
Then, Minister Skubiszewski referred to Minister Genscher’s statement, emphasizing that:
– Poland welcomed the democratization measures adopted by the new
– The
– Events in the
Adding to his previous statement and commenting on the views presented by Minister Skubiszewski, Minister Genscher pointed out the following:
– The Poles and Germans both lived in Central Europe, making them a significant element of the European balance. Both look back on some painful experiences, which has heightened their sense of responsibility;
– The lost war and the ensuing catastrophe led to the overcoming of nationalism in Germany. That was because the German nation could not overthrow dictatorship on its own and had to be liberated by other countries. This was also why it wanted to preserve the memory of those who had risked their lives to fight against this dictatorship. For this reason, we wanted to honour the anti-Nazi Kreisau Circle3. The Bonn offices of the Foreign Office feature a plaque commemorating foreign service members who had been part of that movement and were killed, demonstrating a new sensitivity to nationalism;
– Having drawn lessons from our experience, we were not going to go our own way in
Europe. The
Minister Skubiszewski replied that the concept of 19th-century Central Europe could not be resurrected, for back then it had served hegemonic purposes. Today, it is no longer possible to mark off a third geopolitical area alongside Eastern and Western Europe, as this would create an additional factor in European relations. Transformation in the East meant that we were back to normal in Europe and thus in international relations. It should be observed, however, that the war that Germany had lost in 1945 caused fundamental territorial changes on the continent, whose inviolability and stability underpinned European security.
Taking the floor, Minister Genscher drew attention to the fact that the
Minister Skubiszewski replied by emphasizing that the Wiedervereinigung category was not appropriate, expressing as it did the desire to return to a territorial order that had long been outdated. Therefore, it should not be employed. At the same time, he agreed that the developments unfolding in Europe at the time of Chancellor’s Kohl visit to Warsaw imparted an additional dimension and symbolism to this trip.
At the end of the talks, Minister Genscher welcomed the Polish-Swedish initiative to convene a conference of the Baltic States’ prime ministers with the aim of protecting the Baltic Sea.
- 1
- Minutes of conversation (translated from Polish): Archives of the Polish Ministry of Foreign Affairs AMSZ, Dep. IV 31/92, w. 2.↩
- 2
- This note is part of a comprehensive record (undated) of talks held during Chancellor Kohl’s visit, drafted probably on 14 November 1989.↩
- 3
- This reference is to a German anti-Nazi opposition group which operated in the village of Kreisau during World War Two (Kreisau Circle, Polish: Krąg z Krzyżowej, German: Kreisauer Kreis). The group’s founder and leader, count Helmuth James von Moltke, was arrested by the Gestapo. Following a death sentence, he was executed in January 1945.↩
- 4
- This reference is to the constitution
of the
FRGFederal Republic of Germany of 1949.↩